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033 — Carl Ficks Practiced Law for Over 30 Years and Walked Away to Help Entrepreneurs Be More Physically Active and Less Stressed

Carl practiced law for 30+ years and walked away from it in May 2021 and founded No Surrender. He made it his mission to help entrepreneurs be more physically active.

Carl R. Ficks, Jr. helps busy professionals, and their teams, thrive with fitness. He’s a marathoner, endurance cyclist, and former 30+ year trial lawyer who brings hard-won wisdom, real-world experience, and actionable strategies to his work. The founder of No Surrender, LLC, Carl teaches that fitness and wellbeing are the cornerstones of success. He’s a frequent guest on leadership, business, and legal podcasts, and a sought-after trainer for companies and professional associations. His “Friday Ficks” newspaper column provides strategies, tools, and inspiration to stay resourceful and resilient, regardless of the circumstances. When not cycling thousands of miles or chasing the next audacious fitness goal, Carl enjoys traveling far and wide with his wife and two daughters.

Christina and Carl talk about the different types of entrepreneurs that he works with and the challenges that they face with getting fit. He also gives us some great advice if you are not very active or haven't been active at all.

Questions

  • That’s a pretty big life change to go from being a lawyer to making it your mission to help entrepreneurs be more physically active and less stressed — what prompted you to make that switch?
  • What advice would you give someone that isn’t active at all and never has been?
  • What about someone that isn’t active now, but was in the past?
  • Do you have any final advice or tips that you’d like to share with our audience?
  • To wrap it up — tell us more about who you like to work with, how you can help them, and where they can find you.

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- Hey, busy business people.

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I am here today with another entrepreneur

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taking action, Carl Ficks.

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He practiced law for over 30 years

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and walked away to help entrepreneurs

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be more physically
active and less stressed,

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and I'm getting the scoop
today on how he did it.

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(rock music)

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Okay, so to kick things off,

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that is a pretty big life change, right?

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You went from being a lawyer

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to making it your mission
to help entrepreneurs.

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What prompted you to make that switch?

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- Sure, well, for starters,
thanks for having me, Christina.

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I'm psyched to be here,

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and I'm looking forward
to chatting with you.

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I'm very passionate about
fitness and wellness,

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and it is a bedrock success
principle in my life,

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and it's the way I got through
a very busy law practice.

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I was very athletic as a
kid, through high school,

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through college, a little
bit through law school,

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and then I fell off a cliff

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the first five years of my practice,

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and I did not pay attention to myself.

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And I woke up one morning and realized

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this was not sustainable,

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I need to get back to what
I did as a younger guy.

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And I got back on the fitness wagon,

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and I found, over those 30 plus years,

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that that allowed me to
put in these mega hours.

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And that's not unique
to the legal profession.

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Everybody's busy, but I found

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with this fitness component in my life,

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it just allowed me, gave me
great clarity of thought,

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and allowed me to handle a lot of stuff

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that came at me very fast.

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So it seemed to be

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a natural progression.
- How do you think

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that helped you?

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Oh, sorry.

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- No, it helped me in
that I would be able to,

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I'd love to work out in the morning.

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So I would work out in the morning,

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and I would clarify
some things in my mind,

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some objections that I had, some friction,

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and I'd would work them through

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so when I would get to
the office at 7:30 or 8:00

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in the morning after having worked out,

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I had much more clarity.

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And I said, okay, we can deal with this.

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And again, it allowed
me to put in these hours

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because we're all busy,

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as we all know, we're all busy working,

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but then we have this
other thing called life,

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which, you know, we all
have responsibilities.

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We might have a spouse, a partner,

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we might be a parent, we might
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in the community, in
your church, whatever.

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So as this work thing rolls on,

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you also have this life thing.

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And it just allowed me to handle

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a lot of things all at once.

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- Yeah, I think that's
just really interesting

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'cause you know, most people,
one of their biggest excuses

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for not being more physically active

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is that they don't have time.

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And it's like, you're saying
the opposite was true for you.

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That by making the time
to be physically active,

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it actually helped you
get more done in the day

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instead of taking time away
from getting things done.

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- 100%.

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I find most of the successful
entrepreneurs have a schedule,

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and they keep a schedule.

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It's not a laissez faire, I'll
get to it when I get to it.

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It's a personality type.

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They have a schedule.

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Fitness, frankly, should be scheduled.

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If you put it on the schedule,
there's some accountability.

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And one thing that always cracks me up

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is people love Starbucks, as we know,

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and if you don't have the
Starbucks app and you're in line,

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you might be in line for 20 to 25 minutes.

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But people will do that.

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There are great 20-minute workouts

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that people may not know
about or may just ignore.

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They'd rather have their coffee.

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So to me, it's a bit of a paradox

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that you're okay with
standing in a Starbucks line

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for 20 minutes to get your coffee,

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but you can't work out for 20 minutes?

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I don't get that.

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So I think you have the time,

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you just need to schedule it
and put it on your calendar.

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And I love to do it in
the morning, as I said,

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because then I own it.

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Nobody can take it from me.

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And we all know days go sideways.

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We have a punch list
of things we wanna do.

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You know, one to five, you finish one,

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and all of a sudden there's
a client or a customer

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in crisis and you need to fight that fire.

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And it's the end of the day,

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you haven't gotten anything
you wanted to get to,

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and you have no time for your workout.

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So I would, again, I love the mornings,

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and I'd workout, and then I owned it.

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Nobody and nothing could take it from me.

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- I think I heard something,

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I don't remember where I heard it from,

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but it stuck with me.

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And it was like, it's not that
we don't have enough time,

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it's how we're choosing
to prioritize our time.

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I mean, that's exactly what you just said

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with the Starbucks reference

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that it really is just a
matter of choosing your time.

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And I say this knowing full well

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that I am absolutely terrible at it.

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That was part of what
made me really interested

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in having you on as a guest,

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'cause I'm not a morning person.

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I don't roll out of bed
happy to greet the day.

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I would happily crawl
back under the covers

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and stay there all day long.

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And it's like, but everybody tells you

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there's all this power in
these morning routines,

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and I've never been able to do them.

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And it's like, I'm not even a human

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until about 9 or 10 o'clock.

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- Yeah, so that's okay,

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because it is not for everybody.

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And that's actually another principle

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that I preach is flexibility.

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So you're not a morning person.

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So if you can, on your calendar,

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block off a half hour
from 1:00 p.m. to 1:30

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and have that as your workout time.

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And make it sacred space, you know,

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that nobody can touch this.

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Again, unless there's
a real, legit crisis.

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And just carve it out and make it happen.

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And you can also build other
accountability things in,

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like if you meet a friend

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to walk around a high school track.

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You know, you're gonna meet
that friend at 1:00 p.m.

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You don't wanna disappoint him or her.

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You wanna get there.

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You know they're gonna be there.

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So if you say, gosh, my friend
Dan is gonna be at the track.

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I really gotta get there.

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You're gonna get there

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because that's a little
accountability hack

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that'll make it happen.

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- Well, I love looking at
some of those kinds of things

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for like, when I was
prepping some of the stuff

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I was gonna talk to you
about, it's like, okay,

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well, what are the challenges?

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What are the excuses?

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How can we maybe break some of those down

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and find solutions to them?

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So I like that one.

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Make sure that you
actually schedule the time,

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hold it sacred, find someone
that's gonna do it with you

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so you feel like you're
gonna let them down,

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I think that's a fantastic hack.

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What are some other things,

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like what are some other excuses

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that you've heard people
give you for why they can't

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or why it's hard or why they
couldn't do it that day or?

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- For some folks, it's an
at attainability thing.

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I've run a bunch of marathons.

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And I only say that to
inform, not to impress.

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And somebody says, well, how
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Well, when I started out,
I could not run two miles.

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As I said, the first five
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I just was hammering the hours,

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and then at night, I was
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and I just, I gained a ton of weight,

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and then I realized, this is not good.

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I always wanted to run the
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so that was my goal.

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And when I started out,

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I could not run two
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And that shocked me,
but I just kept at it.

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And you come up with a plan.

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That's something I do with my clients.

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Everybody has plans at work.

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They have strategic plans.

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They have business plans.

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They have metrics.

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People are really good about that,

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and that's a transferable skill.

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You can do that and design a fitness plan.

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Or if a fitness plan is designed
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So I just simply came up with
a plan and I followed it.

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But there there's an
at attainability thing.

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So somebody could say, well,
I could never run a marathon.

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Yeah, I bet you could.

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I bet you could, even
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you can run a mile.

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You can.

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So, you know, another thing is,

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I ran a five kilometer
road race in October.

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That's 3.1 miles.

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The race organizers gave the
field 80 minutes for that 5K.

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That's approximately 27 minutes per mile.

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In that race, and I use air quotes,

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there were people pushing
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on skateboards, running, walking.

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Everybody, it was it all types of folks.

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And that is an incredible opportunity

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to have some really positive energy.

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And 5Ks are all over the place.

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If there's a five kilometer
road race in your neighborhood,

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sign up for it because you'll
meet some really cool people,

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and it's a really good time
and you don't have to lay down

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six minute miles like Olympians.

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Most race organizers will give
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to finish that.

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That is attainable and that's doable,

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and it'll just really pump you up.

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- And that makes a lot of sense.

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I know there's a lot of mindset issue.

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There's a lot of, you know,

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issues around time
management, around priorities.

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I think in a lot of ways,

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I feel like it's almost worse for women,

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but maybe that's just because I am one,

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and we have to show up a
little bit differently.

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So it's like, especially in this world

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with all these Zoom meetings
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it's like carving out 30 minutes

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and going and getting sweaty.

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Well, now you're gonna need a shower,

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and then you're gonna have
to blow dry your hair,

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and then you're gonna
have to redo your makeup,

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so you need basically
another 30, 40 minutes

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to get yourself back together.

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So it's like you've spent more
time getting back together

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than you did actually exercising.

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- Well, you said something
about showing up.

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We're all in service to others.

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You're in service to your
clients, your customers,

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you're in service to the
community with this podcast,

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in service to your family.

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In order to be in service, you have to be.

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You have to be vertical.

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You have to be alive.

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You have to be able to
honor your commitments

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and honor your word.

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So it's really a self care thing.

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And don't confuse self
care with selfishness.

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A little self care is not being selfish.

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You know, I like to tell the story,

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there was a guy on my street,

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his wife gave birth to her third child,

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and he needed a break, so he
went to Italy alone for a week.

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We have, I have two children with my wife.

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That childbirth looked pretty rigorous.

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Now, she needed a break after that.

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I didn't jet off to Italy
because I needed a break.

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So there's a difference between
self care and selfishness.

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And the self care, in my humble opinion,

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allows you to be in service.

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It's no different than
if you're an Uber driver

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and your car is in the shop,

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you're just Christina with
a car that doesn't work.

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You're not Christina the Uber driver

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because your tools of
the trade are offline.

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So if you have a multiple businesses,

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they depend on Christina.

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So you've got to be, to be
in service, you have to be.

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So I think self-care allows
you to accomplish that.

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- And I think most people, me included,

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wait until they start having health issues

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or have a bigger health scare even

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before they make that realization
to what you just said,

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that it's like, I can't
do the things I need to do

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and be who I need to be
for people in my life

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if I can't be, you know,
if something's wrong.

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I think that was a huge,

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like I've just started working on fitness.

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So I have never in my entire life

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been a physically active person.

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The closest that I got
was back in high school

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in marching band, and I had
a blast in marching band,

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and that was about it.

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I don't even think, I
don't think I've ever ran.

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I don't think I've ever run for anything.

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Maybe when one of my kids
was little and falling,

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and I ran to catch them, but
that was probably about it.

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It's like I'm as far out of all of that

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as you could possibly get.

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So it's been a huge uphill battle

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to even do something like
working out for 30 minutes.

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I sit all day at a desk.

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I have a standing desk,

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making myself use it a little bit more

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and things like that it's just been,

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it's a mindset thing a hundred percent.

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- Yeah, I mean a couple things.

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My wife is not a runner,
but she works out.

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And she walks too fast for me.

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I cannot keep up with her.

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So I would rather run or ride a bike.

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She walks fast.

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So if she asked me, do
you wanna go for a walk?

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I always say, oh, well,
I'll go for a stroll

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'cause I can't keep up with you walking.

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She's just a fast walker.

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But if you start small,
and when I speak to groups,

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I love this story.

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I pulled it out of runner's world.

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There was a 65 year old guy in Georgia,

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I know where you are,

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who was a two and a half
pack smoker per day,

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and he wanted to stop.

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So he decided that every time
he wanted to smoke a butt,

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he would run to his mailbox.

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And he said the first time he did that,

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he almost threw up.

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And then he would do it again,

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and then the next time
he wanted a cigarette,

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he would run to the
telephone pole on his street,

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and then it became the
tree down the street,

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and then the public park down the street.

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Long story short, this guy ended up

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running an ultramarathon.

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And his quote was awesome.

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He said, "As slow as I go,
I'm faster than my couch."

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So he started really, really small,

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just running to his mailbox.

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And that's doable.

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So you can break it down
into small bite size pieces

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and it just, it works out.

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I mean, if I said to you, okay, Christina,

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we're gonna run 10 miles today.

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You'd say, wow, Carl, you're crazy.

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But if I say, okay,
we're gonna go two miles,

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then we're gonna walk two miles,

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then we're gonna run a mile,

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then we're gonna walk another two miles,

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and you think, well, maybe I can do that.

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So if you just break it down,

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it helps with your mindset thing.

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- And what are some activities
that you typically recommend

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for somebody who's just
starting to get back

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and try and be active?

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- Well, here's a great 20 minute workout.

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Like I mentioned the high school track.

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I love running around
the track in my town.

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If you go to your high school track,

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one loop around that track is 400 meters,

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also about a quarter mile.

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If you set your watch to 20 or 25 minutes,

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however long you wanna do it,

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walk one loop and then do a slow jog,

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and then walk, and then do a slow jog.

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And the next thing you know,
20 minutes will be gone

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and that's a nice little workout.

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You could also do,

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you can do things without
fancy equipment too.

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You can do something called
step up and box box jumps,

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and you can tie it in with
some pushups and some sits up.

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So basically, a step up is
using stairs in your house.

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You go up one or two,
and then you back down.

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You go up one or two, then you back down.

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Do 40 of those.

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And then a box is like a milk crate.

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Jump up on the box, and
then jump back down.

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Do 30 of those, and then scale it down,

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and then do, if you want, do 20 sit ups,

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and then 10 pushups, and then hit repeat.

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Do that for 20 minutes.

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That's a good way to get started.

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And these short workouts,
I changed my workout regime

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about 10 years ago, I
started doing CrossFit

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way before CrossFit was
popular, and I hired a coach.

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And he was giving me 20 minute workouts.

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And I remember, Christina,
like it was yesterday.

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I said to this guy, Max, I said,

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20 minutes, are you kidding me?

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'Cause I was used to very long workouts.

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He said when you're done with
these workouts I'm giving you,

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you'll be crying for your mama.

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And he was right.

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I mean, some of the 20
minute workouts he gave me,

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it's this high intensity
interval training, HIIT.

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Very short, very high
intensity, but very good.

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So there are a bunch
of workouts you can do

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without fancy equipment.

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You know, you go to
your high school track,

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you need a pair of running shoes

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or a good pair of sturdy
walking shoes, that's it.

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- Yep.

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I talked to one guy that
was a personal trainer,

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and he specializes in
working with entrepreneurs.

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And he said like, even
though he owned a gym

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and he actually lives above his gym.

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So it's like, he doesn't
even have to travel.

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He can literally just go
downstairs and be at his gym,

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that he went, I think it was
like two or three years he said

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where he didn't exercise
at all in his own gym,

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and he was a personal trainer,

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and he was helping other people,

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and his own mindset
kind of got in the way,

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and he started wearing like baggy clothes

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so people couldn't tell
that he was gaining weight

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and things like that.

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And he said he just figured
out he was just stuck,

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and he couldn't get past it.

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And he said this trick that he used

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to get past the mindset and
to get himself to go do it

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was he said, I am only going
to do it for five minutes.

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I will not exercise for
more than five minutes.

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He said when he approached it that way

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instead of saying I'm
gonna do at least 20,

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saying I can only do five,

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and he said it just retrained
his brain to enjoy it again.

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He said he kept, when he hit the five,

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he didn't really wanna stop.

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But it felt attainable that
he was only gonna do it

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for five, no more than five,
no matter what, that was it.

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And he hit the five, and
he wanted to go over,

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but he made himself stop.

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And he did that a few times,

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and then he made it 10 minutes,

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and then he made it 20 minutes,

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and then he made it until he
had gotten past the mindset.

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And I thought that was a neat approach.

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I mean, it's kind of like the flip side

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of what you're doing, but
something about the way

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his brain works, that worked for him.

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- Yeah, so I get it.

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So I'll share this story.

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A very good friend of
mine at my old law firm

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died in his sleep last March.

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It was a big deal.

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I texted a friend of mine and said, hey,

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if you haven't been to a cardiologist, go.

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He responded and said, funny, I just went.

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He told me I needed to
lose 25 pounds in a year.

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I responded, not a problem.

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I can help you.

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That's only two pounds a month
or a half a pound a week.

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And he responded, he said,

446
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well, when you put it
that way, it seems doable.

447
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Because it is.

448
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If I said, Christina, you need
to lose 25 pounds by Sunday.

449
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Well, you're gonna have to cut off an arm

450
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to make that happen.

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But when I, and it wasn't a pitch.

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This is a friend of mine, and I said,

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a half a pound a week, we can do that.

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And that makes it doable.

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That's the five minutes

456
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that you just shared with your friend.

457
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You know, and it's ironic you say

458
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that I lived in the
legal world for so long.

459
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So many lawyers run around saying,

460
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you need a will you need estate planning.

461
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The number of lawyers
without wills is staggering.

462
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We need to practice what
we preach, you know?

463
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Every lawyer will tell
you, do you have a will?

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Because you need one.

465
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And then the response should
be, well, do you have one?

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Because if the answer's no,
it's why should I listen to you?

467
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- Yep.

468
00:19:15,970 --> 00:19:18,340
Well, I think that's true
across so many industries.

469
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Like I've been in marketing for, you know,

470
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15 years now and marketers
are the same way.

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We have the mechanic with the car

472
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that doesn't work, you know?

473
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I mean, it's like, we're not doing

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our own marketing most of the time.

475
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And you've got people that
are in sales and stuff,

476
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and they're not doing
sales for themselves.

477
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And it just, it seems to be like a trend

478
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that most people don't actually practice

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what they preach for some reason.

480
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- Yeah, and I mean, it's funny.

481
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Again, when I started practicing law,

482
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I graduated in 1988.

483
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I finally had enough money
to buy a new car in 1990.

484
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It was my first new car.

485
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What did that mean?

486
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What that meant was I cleaned the rims

487
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of my new car with a toothbrush.

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I was fastidious with my new car.

489
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I'd have it detailed.

490
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I'd clean the rims with
a toothbrush, as I said.

491
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I would vacuum the interior,
regular oil changes,

492
00:20:09,650 --> 00:20:12,260
I took care of that new car way better

493
00:20:12,260 --> 00:20:14,260
than I took care of myself.

494
00:20:14,260 --> 00:20:16,720
So I'm not saying don't go by the new car.

495
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,090
It was a big deal to me.

496
00:20:18,090 --> 00:20:19,350
It was my first new car,

497
00:20:19,350 --> 00:20:22,350
but when I woke up five
years down the road,

498
00:20:22,350 --> 00:20:24,650
I said, I'm treating this car way better

499
00:20:24,650 --> 00:20:25,975
than I'm treating me.

500
00:20:25,975 --> 00:20:28,740
This is kind of wacky.

501
00:20:28,740 --> 00:20:29,930
We need to change that up.

502
00:20:29,930 --> 00:20:33,810
So there are a lot of busy
and successful professionals

503
00:20:33,810 --> 00:20:37,290
and entrepreneurs who do treat their cars

504
00:20:37,290 --> 00:20:39,143
better than their bodies.

505
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:41,510
- Yep, or something in their life,

506
00:20:41,510 --> 00:20:43,720
they spend more time on their business

507
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,220
or more time on cleaning their house

508
00:20:46,220 --> 00:20:49,640
or more time on watching binging Netflix

509
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,760
or reading business books,

510
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,980
or I think everybody's kinda got,

511
00:20:53,980 --> 00:20:57,070
they've got their thing
that is easy to focus on

512
00:20:57,070 --> 00:20:58,060
that makes them feel good

513
00:20:58,060 --> 00:21:01,380
that's not necessarily
doing anything for them.

514
00:21:01,380 --> 00:21:02,213
- Right.

515
00:21:02,213 --> 00:21:04,840
I'm a huge Rolling Stones fan, okay?

516
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,520
Mick Jagger is 78 years old.

517
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,870
He was born in July of '43.

518
00:21:09,870 --> 00:21:12,190
Every three hour Stones concert,

519
00:21:12,190 --> 00:21:16,980
Jagger averages running 12 miles per show.

520
00:21:16,980 --> 00:21:20,460
That doesn't happen by accident.

521
00:21:20,460 --> 00:21:25,460
And there's a guy, 78,
who is just staying at it.

522
00:21:25,510 --> 00:21:29,680
And he's a workout maniac,

523
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:34,160
and it allows him to be
in service to the millions

524
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,813
and millions of Rolling
Stone fans around the world.

525
00:21:38,650 --> 00:21:40,510
And I just look at that guy,

526
00:21:40,510 --> 00:21:42,230
and I think he's got it down

527
00:21:42,230 --> 00:21:43,760
because he can still go out

528
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,080
and bang out a three hour concert.

529
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,390
You know, Charlie Watts
who just passed away

530
00:21:48,390 --> 00:21:51,410
said he would love watching
Nick during the shows.

531
00:21:51,410 --> 00:21:53,760
You know, Charlie was
just back there drumming,

532
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,560
and he'd see running
and running and running.

533
00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:00,020
But again, that didn't happen by accident.

534
00:22:00,020 --> 00:22:02,480
Mick Jagger works out and it allows him

535
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,462
to be what he is at the age of 78, so.

536
00:22:06,462 --> 00:22:08,152
- I think we have an entrepreneurial

537
00:22:08,152 --> 00:22:09,720
equivalence of that too.

538
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:10,930
I mean, you see these people,

539
00:22:10,930 --> 00:22:13,990
like almost every successful
business person that you see

540
00:22:13,990 --> 00:22:16,050
has some form of workout routine.

541
00:22:16,050 --> 00:22:17,576
They're working with a personal trainer,

542
00:22:17,576 --> 00:22:20,030
they're getting up and they're doing yoga

543
00:22:20,030 --> 00:22:22,170
or a running a mile or something

544
00:22:22,170 --> 00:22:23,560
before they start their day.

545
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,983
It's just, it's a trend that
you see over and over again,

546
00:22:25,983 --> 00:22:28,140
everybody who's successful is carving out

547
00:22:28,140 --> 00:22:30,190
that time for themselves in the day.

548
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:36,118
- Yeah, and again, it's
what allowed me to work

549
00:22:36,118 --> 00:22:37,800
these Herculean hours.

550
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,020
And I was on the litigation
side of the house.

551
00:22:41,020 --> 00:22:43,770
I mean, in law, you basically
two sides of the ledge here.

552
00:22:43,770 --> 00:22:45,550
You got litigation or transactional.

553
00:22:45,550 --> 00:22:49,410
Litigation was, you know,
kind of a full contact sport,

554
00:22:49,410 --> 00:22:50,920
but in litigation, Christina,

555
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,760
there's so much you can't control.

556
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,950
If I inherited a file, and
I'm defending a client,

557
00:22:56,950 --> 00:23:00,460
you have the facts of the
case, the law of the case,

558
00:23:00,460 --> 00:23:03,530
the judge assigned to the
case, you're opposing attorney,

559
00:23:03,530 --> 00:23:05,490
you're opposing party, the media,

560
00:23:05,490 --> 00:23:07,390
depending on what kind of case it is,

561
00:23:07,390 --> 00:23:09,920
these are all things that are completely

562
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,750
out of your control.

563
00:23:11,750 --> 00:23:14,310
What's within your control is your ability

564
00:23:14,310 --> 00:23:16,850
to schedule a workout in the morning

565
00:23:16,850 --> 00:23:20,150
to allow you to handle all of the things

566
00:23:20,150 --> 00:23:23,825
that are out of your
control more resiliently.

567
00:23:23,825 --> 00:23:27,253
So it's really, it's
kind of a breathe deep.

568
00:23:28,090 --> 00:23:30,960
If we can't control it,
what can we control?

569
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,170
So it's almost like taking an inventory.

570
00:23:33,170 --> 00:23:35,500
All right, we can't control that,

571
00:23:35,500 --> 00:23:37,870
but here's what I do have control over.

572
00:23:37,870 --> 00:23:42,700
And it's getting up and
working out or in your case,

573
00:23:42,700 --> 00:23:46,029
if you're not a morning
person, just scheduling that.

574
00:23:46,029 --> 00:23:49,280
And then it allows you to
handle all of these things

575
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,170
that come at you fast.

576
00:23:51,170 --> 00:23:54,750
We all get curve balls and
how do we respond to them?

577
00:23:54,750 --> 00:23:57,820
I just, again, it helped me respond

578
00:23:57,820 --> 00:24:00,833
to all of these things building
in this fitness component.

579
00:24:02,390 --> 00:24:04,950
- I can see that the way you
talked about how it helps you

580
00:24:04,950 --> 00:24:07,830
kind of think about your day
before you even got started

581
00:24:07,830 --> 00:24:09,680
and address some of what's coming up.

582
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,520
And I mean, you went in already
kind of having set the tone

583
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:14,690
for your whole day.

584
00:24:14,690 --> 00:24:17,890
So it makes a lot of
sense why that would work.

585
00:24:17,890 --> 00:24:20,367
Now I know I try and keep
these around 20, 30 minutes.

586
00:24:20,367 --> 00:24:22,683
I know I've kept you talking for about 25.

587
00:24:23,729 --> 00:24:25,970
I wanna hear more kind
of about what you do

588
00:24:25,970 --> 00:24:28,210
because I know you help people
with a lot of these hurdles.

589
00:24:28,210 --> 00:24:29,373
Like we've talked about a lot of things

590
00:24:29,373 --> 00:24:30,220
that people have to go through

591
00:24:30,220 --> 00:24:31,200
and things they have to struggle,

592
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:32,720
and I know that's something
you help people with.

593
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,030
So can you tell us a
little bit more about you,

594
00:24:35,030 --> 00:24:37,680
what you do, who you like to work with?

595
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,202
- Sure.

596
00:24:39,202 --> 00:24:42,750
What I do is I like to speak to groups,

597
00:24:42,750 --> 00:24:45,950
community groups, bar
associations, companies,

598
00:24:45,950 --> 00:24:49,590
and I have a program, and
I talk about my program.

599
00:24:49,590 --> 00:24:51,400
So it's kind of one to many.

600
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,680
But I also do one on one coaching.

601
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,540
If somebody was in the fitness game,

602
00:24:56,540 --> 00:24:58,280
and they don't know how to get back,

603
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,420
I'll help them get back.

604
00:25:00,420 --> 00:25:02,000
If they've never been in the game,

605
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,490
and they wanna get into the game,

606
00:25:03,490 --> 00:25:06,260
I can help them do that as well.

607
00:25:06,260 --> 00:25:09,990
So I like to work with
folks that are motivated

608
00:25:09,990 --> 00:25:13,215
to change things up and goal oriented,

609
00:25:13,215 --> 00:25:18,215
which most entrepreneurs
are because in my system,

610
00:25:18,530 --> 00:25:21,512
the first thing is to formulate a goal.

611
00:25:21,512 --> 00:25:23,190
You know, what do you want out of this?

612
00:25:23,190 --> 00:25:25,500
If you wanna run a
marathon, we can do that.

613
00:25:25,500 --> 00:25:29,420
If you just want to feel
better, we can do that too.

614
00:25:29,420 --> 00:25:32,170
So that's like right out of the gates,

615
00:25:32,170 --> 00:25:35,020
let's formulate a goal and
then we'll go from there.

616
00:25:35,020 --> 00:25:36,861
And when I speak to larger groups,

617
00:25:36,861 --> 00:25:39,440
I spoke to a large group of attorneys

618
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,340
at an insurance company recently.

619
00:25:41,340 --> 00:25:44,310
It was something that the person

620
00:25:44,310 --> 00:25:46,860
that dialed me into that
just wanted her team

621
00:25:46,860 --> 00:25:50,350
to get some hacks to be
a little more resilient

622
00:25:50,350 --> 00:25:53,042
because the pandemic, as you well know,

623
00:25:53,042 --> 00:25:58,042
has really impacted folks negatively.

624
00:25:59,002 --> 00:26:01,210
You know, weight gain is through the roof,

625
00:26:01,210 --> 00:26:03,250
depression, anxiety, the whole package,

626
00:26:03,250 --> 00:26:05,790
feeling of isolation and loneliness.

627
00:26:05,790 --> 00:26:09,568
And fitness, I think, again,

628
00:26:09,568 --> 00:26:14,568
is a way back to feeling
better about yourself.

629
00:26:15,410 --> 00:26:19,540
It's well established that
fitness is a common prescription,

630
00:26:19,540 --> 00:26:24,210
non-drug prescription to
combat anxiety and depression.

631
00:26:24,210 --> 00:26:27,470
So when I speak to these groups,

632
00:26:27,470 --> 00:26:30,840
I, again, share what worked for me

633
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,600
and invite the groups to be curious

634
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,080
and to try a few things out,

635
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,420
and I'm hopeful and confident

636
00:26:37,420 --> 00:26:41,713
that that they'll work for
the folks I'm speaking with.

637
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:44,580
- Yeah, I love a lot of that.

638
00:26:44,580 --> 00:26:48,130
I heard, I don't remember where
I heard this one at either,

639
00:26:48,130 --> 00:26:50,130
but this one person was telling me

640
00:26:50,130 --> 00:26:52,050
that if you can get motivated,

641
00:26:52,050 --> 00:26:53,580
sometimes you just have to get committed.

642
00:26:53,580 --> 00:26:56,070
And said sometimes commitment
can get you through

643
00:26:56,070 --> 00:26:57,320
more than motivation can

644
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:58,820
because the motivation can come later

645
00:26:58,820 --> 00:27:01,590
as long as you're committed
to taking the action.

646
00:27:01,590 --> 00:27:03,643
And I thought that was really powerful.

647
00:27:03,643 --> 00:27:04,870
- I like that.

648
00:27:04,870 --> 00:27:06,140
Yeah, it is.

649
00:27:06,140 --> 00:27:08,530
And again, that's that accountability too.

650
00:27:08,530 --> 00:27:10,160
You know, if you've
committed to your friend

651
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,870
that you're gonna meet her at the track

652
00:27:11,870 --> 00:27:14,260
Monday, Wednesday, Friday at one o'clock,

653
00:27:14,260 --> 00:27:17,740
you're gonna hold that space
and you're gonna be there.

654
00:27:17,740 --> 00:27:19,430
So you're committed.

655
00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:21,350
And believe me, there are many mornings,

656
00:27:21,350 --> 00:27:24,260
you know, I live in new
England and it's now winter,

657
00:27:24,260 --> 00:27:28,620
and you know, it's cold and it's dark.

658
00:27:28,620 --> 00:27:32,465
And I went out for a long ride recently,

659
00:27:32,465 --> 00:27:36,750
it was 27 degrees out,
but what I was doing,

660
00:27:36,750 --> 00:27:38,350
and you talk about commitment,

661
00:27:38,350 --> 00:27:40,460
there's this, Chris Doris,

662
00:27:40,460 --> 00:27:44,730
this mental toughness coach
talks about all in this,

663
00:27:44,730 --> 00:27:45,630
being all in.

664
00:27:45,630 --> 00:27:49,360
He describes it as an
infinitely committed state.

665
00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:52,630
And what I did is I was
playful on LinkedIn.

666
00:27:52,630 --> 00:27:54,500
I had a cycling goal,

667
00:27:54,500 --> 00:27:57,370
and I basically stood and I did a selfie,

668
00:27:57,370 --> 00:27:58,797
and I said we'll ride for you.

669
00:27:58,797 --> 00:28:02,100
And what I was doing was
riding miles in honor

670
00:28:02,100 --> 00:28:03,563
or in memory of somebody.

671
00:28:04,528 --> 00:28:08,600
And that way it became more of
a kind of a community thing.

672
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,380
Well, a friend of mine reached out,

673
00:28:11,380 --> 00:28:15,520
and I was doing a 40 mile
ride in honor of his mother.

674
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,340
I got up that Saturday morning,

675
00:28:17,340 --> 00:28:20,180
it was 25 or 27 degrees, as I said,

676
00:28:20,180 --> 00:28:23,320
and I thought, oh man,
it's gonna be cold out.

677
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,810
You know, you're riding
16, 17 miles an hour.

678
00:28:25,810 --> 00:28:28,710
The windchill is now 15, 16, 17 miles.

679
00:28:28,710 --> 00:28:33,120
I have the right gear, but
it's dark and it's cold,

680
00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:38,120
but I committed to ride these
miles for my friend's mother.

681
00:28:38,610 --> 00:28:40,073
And that is one of the things

682
00:28:40,073 --> 00:28:43,770
that got me out of bed
and got me onto the bike.

683
00:28:43,770 --> 00:28:47,730
And when I finished that
ride, it was like rocket fuel.

684
00:28:47,730 --> 00:28:51,100
And I was infinitely
committed to doing this

685
00:28:51,100 --> 00:28:52,903
because I gave this guy my word.

686
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,360
- That's a smart way to approach it.

687
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:57,780
I have never thought about it like that.

688
00:28:57,780 --> 00:28:59,180
That is a really cool trick.

689
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,150
So somebody who's just
trying to like get started

690
00:29:02,150 --> 00:29:04,820
on this approach and they
wanna learn more about you,

691
00:29:04,820 --> 00:29:06,213
where would they go?

692
00:29:07,830 --> 00:29:10,400
- My website, carlficks.com.

693
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,130
And actually, if you go on the website

694
00:29:12,130 --> 00:29:16,640
or carlficks.com/free, there's a,

695
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,350
I've got a piece basically 10
steps to get back in the game,

696
00:29:20,350 --> 00:29:22,650
which might be helpful to your audience.

697
00:29:22,650 --> 00:29:26,567
So again, carlficks.com/free.

698
00:29:26,567 --> 00:29:31,567
It's 10 hacks or steps that were helpful

699
00:29:31,620 --> 00:29:36,550
and have been helpful to me
that I think your audience

700
00:29:36,550 --> 00:29:38,990
and your community might find helpful.

701
00:29:38,990 --> 00:29:41,150
I'm also on LinkedIn.

702
00:29:41,150 --> 00:29:42,780
I post every Friday.

703
00:29:42,780 --> 00:29:45,260
I do this thing called the Friday Ficks

704
00:29:45,260 --> 00:29:50,140
where I just, I offer
tips and little anecdotes

705
00:29:50,140 --> 00:29:53,350
and stories to help
motivate and inspire people.

706
00:29:53,350 --> 00:29:54,440
I do that every Friday.

707
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,510
I started that beginning of the year,

708
00:29:56,510 --> 00:30:00,610
tomorrow will be episode
number 50 'cause it's week 50.

709
00:30:00,610 --> 00:30:02,090
- Nice.
- And yeah,

710
00:30:02,090 --> 00:30:06,013
I've been doing that once
a week the entire year.

711
00:30:06,013 --> 00:30:07,730
I'm on Facebook as well.

712
00:30:07,730 --> 00:30:10,700
So I'd love to connect with anybody

713
00:30:10,700 --> 00:30:13,780
in your audience on LinkedIn.

714
00:30:13,780 --> 00:30:15,400
- Awesome, and I will
make sure those links

715
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,420
are somewhere around this video

716
00:30:17,420 --> 00:30:19,981
wherever you happen to be
watching the video from.

717
00:30:19,981 --> 00:30:21,670
So I'll make sure those links are there

718
00:30:21,670 --> 00:30:22,630
so you can get straight to it.

719
00:30:22,630 --> 00:30:23,910
Thank you for sharing that resource.

720
00:30:23,910 --> 00:30:24,860
That's really cool.

721
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,060
- Yeah, I had fun writing, and again,

722
00:30:28,060 --> 00:30:29,470
it's things that have helped me,

723
00:30:29,470 --> 00:30:33,020
and I think they, at least one of the 10

724
00:30:33,020 --> 00:30:35,423
would be helpful to
folks that are listening.

725
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:37,833
- Awesome.

726
00:30:37,833 --> 00:30:39,160
Well, thank you so much
for coming on today

727
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,360
and for sharing all of
your expertise with us.

728
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,120
Is there anything else
that you would like to,

729
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,370
any final advice or tips
you'd like to share?

730
00:30:46,481 --> 00:30:49,970
- I would just like to say,

731
00:30:49,970 --> 00:30:52,680
invite people to just get
out there and keep moving.

732
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,654
Just keep moving.

733
00:30:54,654 --> 00:30:57,030
You know, when I give my talk,

734
00:30:57,030 --> 00:31:01,780
I say most of us have been
stuck in the Atlanta airport.

735
00:31:01,780 --> 00:31:02,613
All right?

736
00:31:02,613 --> 00:31:04,230
We're changing planes in Atlanta.

737
00:31:04,230 --> 00:31:05,943
We're stuck, we have a layover.

738
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,920
Half hour walking around
the Atlanta airport

739
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,670
or any airport for that
matter is a great way

740
00:31:11,670 --> 00:31:12,770
to kill some time,

741
00:31:12,770 --> 00:31:16,042
and it's serving multiple purposes.

742
00:31:16,042 --> 00:31:17,818
Great people watching,

743
00:31:17,818 --> 00:31:20,710
you can look at the
departure and arrival board.

744
00:31:20,710 --> 00:31:23,530
It takes you to various
places, but you're moving.

745
00:31:23,530 --> 00:31:24,490
And the next thing you know,

746
00:31:24,490 --> 00:31:27,300
that two hour delay is now condensed

747
00:31:27,300 --> 00:31:29,820
to an hour and a half for
an hour and 15 minutes

748
00:31:29,820 --> 00:31:31,440
'cause you've been out walking.

749
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,000
I was just down a couple weeks ago

750
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,420
in the Fort Lauderdale airport

751
00:31:34,420 --> 00:31:36,383
walking from terminal to terminal,

752
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,230
and they had signs, FLL walking path,

753
00:31:40,230 --> 00:31:43,030
and they were giving the
distances between the terminals.

754
00:31:43,030 --> 00:31:46,220
I took a photo of it 'cause I
wanna use it in my PowerPoint,

755
00:31:46,220 --> 00:31:47,100
but there you go.

756
00:31:47,100 --> 00:31:49,380
I mean, Fort Lauderdale
has four terminals.

757
00:31:49,380 --> 00:31:52,330
So, you know, from terminal
three to terminal two,

758
00:31:52,330 --> 00:31:55,170
it said 0.35 miles, something like that.

759
00:31:55,170 --> 00:31:58,890
Oh okay, I know if I walk to
terminal two and come back,

760
00:31:58,890 --> 00:32:00,390
seven tenths of a mile.

761
00:32:00,390 --> 00:32:01,740
Better than sitting around.

762
00:32:02,595 --> 00:32:07,595
So just keep moving in
some way, shape, or form.

763
00:32:08,340 --> 00:32:10,703
And there's no downside to that.

764
00:32:11,730 --> 00:32:13,440
- Yep, that's actually
the last time I ran,

765
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,460
come to think of it,
was the Atlanta airport.

766
00:32:15,460 --> 00:32:17,507
So getting one plane
coming in a little bit late

767
00:32:17,507 --> 00:32:19,880
and the next one leaving
a little bit early,

768
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,610
and on the other side of the airport,

769
00:32:22,610 --> 00:32:24,930
and my son did not want
to take the little train

770
00:32:24,930 --> 00:32:25,763
in the airport.

771
00:32:25,763 --> 00:32:27,887
He wanted to get on the people movers,

772
00:32:27,887 --> 00:32:30,490
the moving sidewalks,

773
00:32:30,490 --> 00:32:32,840
And you know, they don't go the whole way.

774
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,550
So it's like you have to run
from one to the next one.

775
00:32:35,550 --> 00:32:38,100
And then we ran on those sidewalks,

776
00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:40,430
so you feel like you're going
fast as anything, right?

777
00:32:40,430 --> 00:32:42,230
And with our luggage.

778
00:32:42,230 --> 00:32:45,070
So he was having a blast doing that.

779
00:32:45,070 --> 00:32:49,770
- Yeah, you were doing your
full on "Home Alone" recreation

780
00:32:49,770 --> 00:32:51,155
of running to catch that flight.

781
00:32:51,155 --> 00:32:51,988
- Yeah, pretty much.

782
00:32:51,988 --> 00:32:53,542
Yeah, flying through the airport.

783
00:32:53,542 --> 00:32:55,580
- The McAllister family.

784
00:32:55,580 --> 00:32:56,413
- Yep.

785
00:32:56,413 --> 00:32:57,246
- Catching that flight to Paris.

786
00:32:57,246 --> 00:32:59,220
- With our little
luggage on wheels things,

787
00:32:59,220 --> 00:33:00,650
you know, with you and it's like,

788
00:33:00,650 --> 00:33:02,450
we're going on the
little moving sidewalks,

789
00:33:02,450 --> 00:33:05,020
and they make noise as
you're rolling over the,

790
00:33:05,020 --> 00:33:07,190
like running down those moving sidewalks.

791
00:33:07,190 --> 00:33:09,848
So it's just like brrr,
like the whole way.

792
00:33:09,848 --> 00:33:10,760
It was great.

793
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:11,650
He had a blast.

794
00:33:11,650 --> 00:33:12,780
I was out of breath.

795
00:33:12,780 --> 00:33:14,840
I was like, I can't whew.

796
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,220
But I did, so that's
actually the last time I ran.

797
00:33:17,220 --> 00:33:20,010
So that's really great.
- Hopefully made your flight.

798
00:33:20,010 --> 00:33:22,420
- Yeah we did, and then
he wanted to do it again

799
00:33:22,420 --> 00:33:23,963
when we got back, so.

800
00:33:25,030 --> 00:33:26,710
- Just keep moving.

801
00:33:26,710 --> 00:33:28,320
That's it.

802
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:29,684
- I love that.
- There's no doubt about that.

803
00:33:29,684 --> 00:33:31,370
- Thank you again so much for coming on

804
00:33:31,370 --> 00:33:32,540
and for sharing all these great tips.

805
00:33:32,540 --> 00:33:34,340
I think this is such an important topic,

806
00:33:34,340 --> 00:33:37,270
and I know you've shared
things that have helped me, so.

807
00:33:37,270 --> 00:33:39,123
- Well, thanks, Christina.

808
00:33:39,123 --> 00:33:39,956
It's been an honor,

809
00:33:39,956 --> 00:33:42,030
and I've had a lot of
fun chatting with you.

810
00:33:42,030 --> 00:33:43,090
- Oh, you too.

811
00:33:43,090 --> 00:33:45,640
So entrepreneurs, guys, this
is your call to take action.

812
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,240
So head over to our
community etatoday.zone

813
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:49,310
and learn how to build a business

814
00:33:49,310 --> 00:33:50,520
that enables your lifestyle

815
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,620
instead of taking over your life.

816
00:33:52,620 --> 00:33:54,274
Till next time.

817
00:33:54,274 --> 00:33:55,113
- Bye.

818
00:33:57,471 --> 00:34:00,304
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